LievenDV's Dwarf journal

I noticed this problem also with other multistomps, like Zoom G1On/G3/MS50g. I don’t know if any multistomp have an automatic way to “normalize” all the pedalboards.

When I’m creating a pedalboard, I try to configure the pedalboardoutput volume as same of the pedalboard input. For this, I try to configure the volume of every plugin to do the same “loud” volume that when it is off. Unfortunately, it requires a lot of hard work for adapt pedalboards already created.

(Of course, a booster is an exception)

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I encountered one or more plugins that allow you to set the number of steps you alter the value with one knob “tick”. (button assignment under “Advanced” Can’t find which one but that was but I thought it was smart. I was totally unaware of the “push for faster flow of values” feature! Thanks.

I asked what happen if you route L and R signal into a single output: most likely phase issues.
Then I saw this but I falsely remembered what it does. Now that I think of it; what was I even thinking.

I need to approach the L+R issue more liek the real world.
For effects that are only available as stereo effects, I do this (see below), assuming it behaves just like my real life pedals when going for a mono guitar chain. No reason to think the MOD behaves differently than my pedals, right? (as in; “why should I connect L and R to a single output, just use the L one”)

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no, the comp is not on but the differences are big, too big to compensate with comp.
I was thinking of some automatic readout or a test you could do in the the op your screen. The test could consist of a dummy signal, going through your chain in the background. It could say how much your chain amplifiers or attenuates going from in to out or compare average output to a dB value you use as reference on all pedalboards.

in practice: download a pedalboard, run the test, test says: the output of this board will be avg x dB higher than your reference output. put in a gain control in the end to compensate this and presto?
I know there are a lot of different scenario’s and I oversimplified a lot here, but you catch my drift.
It is just a way to automate some of the “manual dB normalize workflow” that each user has to do manually for his/her rig.

As @SrMouraSilva pointed out, you will always encounter this with user generated patches.
I DO appreciate the deep comp on everything possibility though. I wonder who uses what settings and why

@SrMouraSilva do you achieve this by putting at least one of those mini gain polugins at the beginning and end of your chain?

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I guess deciding for yourself what the optimal range is for you and manually setting your boards to this is the only and best way to do the thing right.
Running the same DI guitar signal track from a sound player in your chain gives you a reference though.

When I will be looking back at several points, It will be a breeze to distill my user journey and learning.
As stated in another thread, I gladly help where I can, even if it is thinking out loud alot.

I’m a digital marketing for a major Insurance company also active in Germany. I guess product meetings are a lot more interesting @ MOD than at our place :smiley:

Chapter III will be about the singer/songwriter setup, featuring vocals and electro-acoustic guitar. A topic that doesn’t get much attention (yet). It happens my most frequent thing to do though.

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No, I adjust the volume (and eventually other parameters) of every plugin of the pedalboard chain to do the same “loud” when it is on and it is off. Because I like to turn on/off the plugins individually during the performance, apply a gain at the end of the chain doesn’t work well: Imagine that exists an amp in the middle of the plugins chain that increase a lot of volume, if I turn off it, the pedalboard will decrease significantly the volume, but I need that the volume of the pedalboard continues with the same volume, regardless of witch plugin is turned on or off. :slight_smile:

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My impulsive, short minded brain didn’t think of that, totally makes sense ^^
That renders the “automatic test procedure” idea described above rather useless too I guess

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It is useless for my case. But a lot of pedalboards are made as black-box, then the output gain plugin at the end of the chain is useful!

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Chapter III: Vocal test

Since I have no microhpones with jack plugs, I had to go out and buy 2 xlr to jack plugs.

I thought I had some hiss and clicks on my recording but checking it on my pc it was better.
So, I concluded most of he noise was in my headphones.

I needed some time to find a good compression, delay an reverb setting for vocal.

chain: -minigain-comp-eq-delay-split: 2 reverbs-minigain

can’t show a screenshot because the device disconnected and I couldn’t get back to it. I didn’t have the chance to save the settings beofre the disconnect :confused:
The sample was saved before that though.
I had to reboot pc, play with the usb setting and reboot the Dwarf (2x) before it came back.

I can call the test a success but I have tweaking to do.
Perhaps some plugins that suit vocals better concerning ranges and presets aren’t a luxury

Excuse the lousy humour in the sample, I did Homer Simpsons lyrics but in a more Sinatra fashion.
(Disclaimer, I never sing Sinatra stuff :p)

++ Recording and exporting to pc is a breeze. I love that I don’t need to connect to my interface, get the buttons and settings right

++ recording takes in standalone mode is easy-peazy too now.

++ Now I can record vocal and guitar while jamming!

++ quality wise, it passed the test and it is gig worthy for vocals too.

° It’s probably better to have a good pre-amp between mic and Dwarf? but that would beat the purpose of having a compact everything-in-1-box.

° some dedicated plugins for vocals would be nice

– If the Dward had combo plugins (xlr and jack in 1), I didn’t have to buy those converter plugs

– Don’t rely on your headphones for checking your recording

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just have to say this thread is great. Really like the thorough attention to detail.

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Anything I have done with vocals needed a preamp. I either used a small audio interface, or routed my mic through the ext-in on my strega to get acceptable levels.

I did a little vocal experiment using a heavy reverb board at the end of this video. Check the last chapter to hear mod swallow my voice.

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I couldn’t agree more!

@LievenDV as a good Portuguese, this time I will only focus on the cons :sweat_smile:

Although I can understand you, this would be a completely different type of device. Even design-wise I would say that a lot would need to be changed. So maybe that would make sense if we had a device which the UI is specifically targeted to microphone usage and vocals - probably on that perspective even the pre-amps should be different. Something like the MOD DuoX is meant to be a table unit and the MOD Dwarf a floor unit (although you can use the Dwarf on a table - @Elk_wrath here does it quite a lot and in a really nice way) or you can place the MOD DuoX on the floor (although this I would see a bit less justification).

The headphones are really just meant for monitoring and not really to check the sound quality. We are aware that the headphones out tend to be noisier.

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Thanks @jon I appreciate how close you are on the topics on this forum.

None of these thngs really weigh on my judgement but as said, This journal is meant for all items I encounter in a chronological path, big or small.

I get the thing about the combo inputs and I can imagine MOD coming up with something cool in the future…something that isn’t just pre-amp but hits 20 birds with one rock, like the Dwarf does.
The most important thing is that the sound quality of what recorded is good. Headphones are just a monitor; makes sense.

Currently, I use the dwarf 50% on table (pc desk) and 50% in my little home studio…This studio is no real setup but a “place” where I can set up when I need to. It is being used as homeworking desk.
The combo of standalone and GUI mode and everything it can do and emulate absolutely outshines my usual workflow when I want to record something. I never got to recording much because of all the fuss and it drained my energy and focus. table<-> attic is fast. I’m planning to try to link it to my tablet too but for that I’ll need a converter cabme usb C to usb or something. If I can hook up tablet, BT keyb and mouse, I’d have the ultimate mobile studio. The fact that the GUI runs on the Dwarf itself is a killer feature.

Stay tuned for Chapter IV, which will probably be: testing the “Devil’s Advocate rig”. (me singing and playing guitar for my solo stuff

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You’re welcome! I’m really happy to see users (and especially new users like you) so engaged and providing such good and useful feedback for us. This is the way that we believe we can improve our devices and in general our offer for you guys and for new users that might come in the future.

No worries, we don’t take it like that. What you are doing helps us a lot in understanding the perspective of users and what makes sense to wonder for the roadmap either in mid or long term (especially).

I will :slight_smile:

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Chapter IV: Prepping for heavy metal live gig.

Ok, since a great opportinity came up, my roadmap slightly changed.

Next week, we open for a semi-famous Belgian band and I really want to take the Dwarf on stage.

Rehearsal session I:
I made 2 great patches but quikly realised I made 2 mistakes.
mistake 1: I made a patch with an audio file for practicing but forgot to map a button to turn it off. Since the file player is “on” by default. I couldn’t use the patch as a file was playing all the time :smiley:
Mistake 2: I made a patch with an amp and cabinet and I couldn’t turn these of either. a sound with a cab sim through an amp and cab is just…mush :D. sound unusable but because of me, not the dwarf.

Back to the drawing board :smiley:

Rehearsal session II:
Made patch without power amp and without cab sim.
Sounded much better.

Based my sound around the new Metal Zone emulation, followed by an EQ.
Mapped 3 of the EQ’s controls so I could control a tactical bass, mid and treble region with 3 knobs.
Mapped some controls on the MetalZone as well but didn’t really have to touch these. (besides, everything above 9 o’ clock on distortion dial was gritty mud.)

I EQ’d my sound to combine it with that of the lead guitarist and we found something useful for my rhythm section. Now…can’t I save this setting? Perhaps I can but i didn’t know how so I took a picture of my EQ settings :smiley:

Our drummer was absent but I mapped a gain contol and preset list to the file player filled with our drumtracks. I was smarter this time and mapped a switch to the on/off of the file player …
…but not smart enough. next time, I map the file player to output 2, so I can send that one straight into the PA for better drum sound :D.
I found cycling through the presets for the drumtracks on the fileplayer a bit slow. I turned the knob and the interface took a while to change the value to the next preset. file is about 4 or 5 MB.
Also, after a while, the file started playing again, even tohugh I wasn’t in loop mode

My bandmades were impressed though!

The built in noise supression in combo with the noise gate is bliss!
It took me an hour to notice I have no noise.
That is a good thing, I wasn’t missing it and took my clean signal for granted.
Set and forget, the best kind of setting <3

So far so good.

I even tried something more exotic.
I split the signal to go through a reverb butfirst it had to go through a high pass filter on a specifically high setting. I mostly play rhythm play the lowest 3 strings but on the song “Legion”,a darker and exotic tune, we double an oriental melody on higher strings.
Thanks to thigh pass filter on that split, I could have more of the reverb on those high notes and keep it moderately quiet on the lower chugging. Interesting!

I figured being able to switch between snapshots with one button would be handly though.
I might get an extra midi controller for that if it would be possible in the future.

I began to wonder is there are people who use the Dwarf as only preamp, straight into their power amp section. what gain settings to they use?

++ Noise suspression works well
++ theme color for leds on each page is a good visual support.
++ splitting signals and using filters gives you options your regular board probably can’t
++ I’m finding better ways to practice while the drummer is absent with the file player. (don’t forget separate on/off and gain for file player though.)

°° make sure you can turn off everything you don’t need when you are at rehearsal or live
°° How do I use it as only pre-amp in my setup (by using the loop in to the power amp section).?

– No setting saving when in standalone mode? (to be confirmed)
– switching between file presets on the file player with a knob went slow.
– file starts playing again after a while, even when not in loop 'on" mode

Next Sunday and Monday 2 rehearsals left and then: LIVE!
I do my vocals over the regular PA for now.

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This is my favourite series (after Breaking Bad) :smiley:
I’d love to watch a video of your next on stage performance!

About controls in offline mode, I usually configure gain, volume, tone and eq of the used amp sim so I can easily tweak main settings of my tone (just in case).

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@LievenDV where in BE are you playing?

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17/2/2022
CC De Ster Willebroek
(Willebroek is situated somewhere between Antwerp and Brussels)
opening for RHEA
we start: 20:15

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@LievenDV if you or anyone else in the Forum are ever playing in Berlin, please let us know! Probably some of us would come and watch. I’m just talking with @jon about potentially creating a category for people to post their upcoming gigs as topics so people in the area could come and watch, see how they use their device and maybe even talk about it after the gig. We were thinking it could be a cool idea, what do you guys think?

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We’re still a small community so chances would be small but IF the chance occurs, sure why not, I’d love to come and see others and vice versa.

The category could expand in scope and be about “live performance” in general?

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You can always save a preset on the plugin.

In standalone (without accessing the WebGUI) you can save snapshots of your pedalboards.

I think this is not supposed to happen. Does it happen with all files and file lengths? I guess it is a bug.

Cant’ wait to read the next chapter! As always, pretty nice documentation you are doing here :slight_smile: Thank you so much!
and…perhaps you can get someone to record a few videos (?) :slight_smile:

@redcloud exactly!

YES!!

I would say that yes. As long as a MOD device is somehow involved - what may be easier or harder to check…so take it as it is - anything would be welcome :wink:

thanks for responding so quickly!

Pedalboard uploads, recordings, video’s… all to come in a few weeks when my music room is finally available :smiley:

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Chapter V: First live gig & next steps in vocal+guitar setup

Hi guys,

Hope you are here to enjoy a new episode in my Mod Dwarf journey.

I’m becoming more confident in setting up and using the Dwarf and it has already become the centerpiece of my setup. My other pedals are literally gathering dust; Wamplers and Strymons on a shelve. “Give them to meeee” I hear you say. No! These pedals are great and in about 10 chapters, I want to be recreating those :wink:

I did my first live gig with the Dwarf and everything went great.
Boot up, set and forget and rock out!

My rig is getting smaller: Because of the easy of use I still used my TC Electronic polytune in front of the Dwarf. Those 2 with my Senheisser wireless in front and I had zero worries. I could switch to the Dwarf tuner one day but me having to sing, play and tune and provide an occasional bind text, I need absolute comfort. Together with my small Joyo Banta “Zombie” amp (the most underestimated small amp for metal) and a lightweight Laney 2x12 cab, I was all set.

The noise cancelling made me ultra quiet between songs and during my binding texts :smiley:
Next step will be using vocal effects via the Dwarf as well.

I made a recording but you can barely hear the Dwarf in action. it was in the back of the hall and I merely do some rhythm riffage while singing and having a lead guitarist. I’ll probably post it later if I EQ’d it a bit

Monday, In the rehearsal room, I expanded my “Point Fifty” (heavy metal) rig with an amp and cab that I can switch on/off. That way it can evolve to a pedalboard that can be used with a physical amp or go straight into the mixer.

I also set up my prototype pedalboard for Devil’s Advocate (the solo gig with guitar and vocals)

Meanwhile, my trusty Lehle passive split with ground lift takes away the noise

I Managed to get my first usable solo pedal board going in our rehearsal room that combines vocal and guitar (clean, slight breakup, delay+light verb or just more verb). I never used compression on my live vocals but now it was easy to throw something in the chain. Had issues figuring out what to use though :smiley: . “Use your ear” yeah yeah I know that one but in a rehearsal and you’re singing yourself, that isn’t always easy to tell.

I recorded my dry signals with some songs so I can “re-amp” them through the Dwarf later.
Use a stereo recorder with guitar left and vocal right, thinking it will be easy to split up at home before putting it back into the Dwarf. Keep it it that way is probably the easiest, as I can route L and R to the separate guitar and vocal track anyway. A multitrack recorder would have been easy here.

++ Dwarf was reliable on my first live gig and it’s noise cancelling gave me a lot of comfort on stage

++ Downsizing rig is happening

++ Solo rig came together

++ recorded dry signal when desigining my solo pedalboard. Now wish I recorder the gig dry signal too

°° When putting a compressor in the beginning of my vocal chain, I frankly had no idea what to go for.

– miss a multitrack recorder plugin (already requested it because it’s not the first time I missed it :D)

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