MOD Insolvency and Reboot

[jpj]

Good luck with the reboot!
Love my 2 Duos 2 foot pedals and new Dwarf from Thomman, and I am also tier 3.

[Will]

Oh man. This is sad. I’ve been on both sides of this situation more times than I care to think about. I just missed out on the Linux IPO craziness. Our mgt pulled the plug a couple days before it was time, divied up the money and split. We got old laptops as compensation instead of the $millions in options.

Startups are hard. Most fail. We can call it crowdfunding, but in the end, this is just the same as any market - you find investors and you give it your blood. Sometimes it works. Usually it doesn’t.

I hope you can reboot in some way - I’ve been kind of holding off with mine in hopes of a better workflow set up or at least good documents, and kind of waiting for a couple of things like the guitar synth stuff. I was gonna load up a few plugins, but I guess that’s on hold for a while.

So far, it has given me many hours of dial twiddle experimentation fun, and even a few Gilmour fantasies. (I admit it.)

Anyway, best of luck. I think the concept is viable, especially with a good angel.

[jardous]

anybody going to Guitar Summit in Mannheim (9.-11. Sept)? We could meet there, drink some beers, and discuss how we proceed as community

[rogeriocouto]

@Azza

I think there is a way to extract them from another unit and install them in an other one manually via SSH.

Hi @Azza
I was thinking about that last night.
Maybe we should start a New thread for this. The Wiki has some info on that subject.

[Paul]

Very sad news, I think the concept is great and i bought and included the Dwarf in my guitar gigging rig. I think the question has been asked, but not answered? will we be able to access cloud to download plugins. Also, I had not downloaded/applied the latest firmware. It would be great if this was available or can someone kindly send it to me (assuming its stable?).

[Azza]

Ok. I’ve created this thread

Sharing plugins manually from a device to another one without using the store

In these complicated times for MOD Devices, a couple of users are thinking of a way to exchange plugins directly in order to mitigate the current situation where the online plugin store is down. A way could be to use SSH to extract a copy of an installed plugin and make it available for other users to install in their units. A script could greatly help with that process. So please post below a list of all the plugins you would like to be able to install, or the plugins that you already have a…

[bansheekft]

just got blocked from liking what you all share here due to being a low tier Member and obviously liked a lot. so now i got to write my opinion although a lot got written already. And wow! i had relations with less emotional impact then this “MOD ride” we had together and obviously still have.

I want to applaud everyone here who manages to not blow up Ego and let it crack publicly

i remember telling my employees that the company is going south fast. remember the insolvency
i feel for those “responsible”

my MOD Duo X arrived just days AFTER a two-weeks-lockdown - when the stacked work overwhelmed me. massively. it is still in the box…
btw i backed the dwarf (with gig case!) tier3 with honor (just kidding - but yeah i’m fine not going to compare it to the MOD-teams situation.
Fun Fact: was about to open the box finally, when the MODfathers email arrived. as if i’d wish not to play with the MOD… super strange
got burnt in a few crowdfunding campaigns, was co-founder of a basic income initiative, a (paying) Member of the C3S
Not willing to give up deciding for those who are willing to go the more stony road
not willing to break this world down into black and white and be blind for all it’s colorful potential
And here are a lot of people involved with buckets full of color! nice

TLDR:
I feel you all - as a lot of us seem to do.

but it’s not about feelings imho, nether is it about what comes in mind shadowing the possibilities. Not about positiv thinking (what ever that means) nor being realistic even.

Paradigms shifting and the MOD devices Team was keen to try things that are worth trying, worth investing, worth loosing. yes we seem to loose this possibly. may it be a catharsis for what it’s worth

I would love to see MOD devices keep on going a “Blender-esk route” as i interpreted it. i WANT this to be the shining star of an open minded community. And yes it already shimmers a lot for years now. some light on this groovy road we all seem to be on. be it with this or that in mind, and different feelings thanks for that to all of us.
a foundation or cooperative an association for those who already are more then just a customer dealing with “the Team” and other “higher tier customers” in forums etc sounds worth considering to me

Team me up scotty!
fare well to those about to leave the ship now and
ahoy to all isles to be discovered along the way!

that helped
thank you for you attention

Behnam

such thrills - not even have touched this thing - spooky! in a good way

[jon]

@bansheekft

just got blocked from liking what you all share here due to being a low tier Member and obviously liked a lot.

Just fixed that part

[bansheekft]

beware of a lot likes to come

[jardous]

@Dave_Parker

f is that proper attribution be given - just explicitly acknowledge that a particular project or product is using the information from the particular open source project. You can “fork” a project and “register” it using a different license, but you must acknowledge the open source information you used. Even if your new project is “closed source” - proprietary - the “open source” information that you are using is still “out there” for anyone to use.

And someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there is any proprietary softw

well - you are right. The open source part is the Linux kernel, JACK, installed tools, most of the plugins.

BUT - the infrastructure is what does count here as well.

There are two issues for the community if we want to continue:

• we do not know how to setup the pedalboard and plugin repository.
• we do not know how to build the firmware image

I would love to see that information public.

[Azza]

I think we have enough knowledge to create alternative Pedalboard and plugin repos if needed.

[jardous]

could you please share that information?

[Azza]

I mean: it’s there for us to use, but has to be gathered first. Look at this thread for more information

Sharing plugins manually from a device to another one without using the store

In these complicated times for MOD Devices, a couple of users are thinking of a way to exchange plugins directly in order to mitigate the current situation where the online plugin store is down. A way could be to use SSH to extract a copy of an installed plugin and make it available for other users to install in their units. A script could greatly help with that process. So please post below a list of all the plugins you would like to be able to install, or the plugins that you already have a…

[spunktsch]

These are sad news - although not entirely surprising to me. I feel for the hole MOD team and hope they can start fresh.

I’ve backed a few things on Kickstarter across the board in the past. Most of it got released - often not as planned, lacked features. I even have stuff sitting in boxes that the infrastructure for is gone.

I always weight in risk/reward on those things. Like buying stocks. It’s easy to say having received my dwarf in the 2nd tier but it could have been easily just a glorified reverb pedal if everything else was subpar. Which in some aspects it is but in others it brings me so much fun that I can disregard that.
The forum and the team was always helpful and supportive.

And I have no doubt that even when everything shuts down the device will be working for a long time - as long you got your backups and the firmware. I still use my line6 m9 from time to time and that is 12years old.

[Dave_Parker]

Thank you Behnam! I’m in full agreement. Whatever happens with the project - and I’m hoping for the best - the community will live on.

[Clement]

@Azza

Also, did we try to approach big youtubers like…

I realize that there is a price tag attached, that said a Pete Thorn review might have provided a value ROI that would have been justified. It wouldn’t be the first time my pedal purchases were influenced by a demo that he did. His Soundblox Pro Multiwave Distortion demo from a decade ago made me aware of Source Audio, and I have became a fan boy owning six of their pedals -including the original Multiwave.

[LievenDV]

We should propagate the Discord server, as it is a completely independent channel free of risk of going down.

Join if you have Discord!

Join the MOD Devices Unofficial Community Discord Server!

Meanwhile, brainstorming about making an alternative source for plugins is being done here:

Sharing plugins manually from a device to another one without using the store

We just need to be aware that the restore function rewrite(erases) all data, correct?

If we get an independent platform up and running with

• seperate FREE plugins (since there are some things to be figured out what to do with paid plugins)
• firmware updates
• docu on which plugin is what and does what etc
• documentation how to manually install plugins in the most foolproof and noob friendly way possible

Do we need to find a sponsor to set up a CMS or could this be achieved otherwise?
Please look at it from the UX perspective: If we can have the users skip compiling stuff from github that woudl be great. I’m thinking of a way to see info about the plugin, download and a step-by-step manual to install them.

I’d gladly help with creating/beautifying/ foolproofifying content

[Dave_Parker]

@LievenDV

MOD Devices Unofficial Community

Excellent idea!

I’ve saying that a lot - “Excellent idea!” “Great idea!”… And not really offering to contribute. My skills were fairly limited to begin with. I’ve played guitar for +/- 60 years and with bands at the “weekend warrior” level off and on since '71 and I was an IT professional in various capacities from IBM mainframe to PC/unix/linux, LAN/WAN, etc. Never very high level at anything and quite a breadth of knowledge and expertise with not very much depth in anything.

Given all my other obligations I’m only able to offer any kind of direct support on a very limited basis. What limited applicable skills I might have seem to be covered by considerable expertise by forum participants.

I’ve just signed in (already have an account) to the discord page and I see that it’s an “unclaimed account”.

[grooveman]

Guys, it breaks my hear to hear that you are having such trouble. This product is good, the philosophy is sound, and I think you have the attention of any musician in the Open Source community (and then some). Don’t forget us. We won’t be forgetting you. Come back to us when things are a little better. Stay true to the vision.

Best Wishes.

[Dymaxion]

I do hope you’re able to get the plugin site and even the store back up — I was meaning to drop a little cash on RMPro and a couple of other things, and I’d be quite happy to still do that — it’s not like the hardware is going anywhere. I’m quite hopeful that even if the reboot doesn’t fully work out, we’ll be able to keep the devices patched and sort out some basic bugfixes as an open source project. Best of luck handling what has to have been a massively rough ride.