Plugins for the upcoming global BPM?

In the up coming firmware update (1.3) I believe that the global BPM will be implemented…

Is the Bollie Delay the only plugin that is ready to accept this?
Are there other plugins that will use this?
Are developers updating current plugins to accommodate this?

I’m very excited to see this update!

Sorry, but no. v1.3 is mostly about pedalboard presets.

Once global BPM is here, plugins that have a designated BPM port will automatically follow the global value.
It’s very likely that the plugins bpm parameters will be hidden away, as to not generate confusion.

The global BPM will be addressable to a knob or footswitch (via tap-tempo).

This doesn’t mean delays and other time effects will be automatically in sync though.
Their BPM values will match the global one, but they need to know more information to get everything in sync (usually bar, beat and time signature).
A few plugins already do this, like the step sequencer. Once this feature is out, you’ll see multiple step sequencers playing together in perfect sync (initial tests already proved this).

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HI @falkTX,
Thank you for the clarification. I must have heard about the upcoming update and assumed it’s going to be on that one.
Pedalboard presets is going to be AWESOME! :heart_eyes:

I’m super excited for these upcoming updates!

Hey @Skydiver

My bad. I gave you the wrong info.

As of Dec/2016, 1.3 was supposed to include BPM support, but the technical team opted to split the scope and keep focus on presets.

Sorry :wink:

Good to know that I’m not crazy… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: well maybe I still am… Ha!

Both of these updates are going to be great!
Probably a smart move to split these so that you can concentrate on one then move to the next.

Thank you for all your hard work!

Not sure whether this thread hijacking, but if so, I’ll just start a new one.

I dread the sound of a metronome, but would love some visual feedback from the Duo. Would it be possible to light the LEDs above the buttons rhythmically in sync with the (global) BPM? Or even switch on and off the background light for one of the displays? That would be an awesome feature… or plugin. If need be, it could still produce some kind of ticking noise.

When you use tap tempo for the Bollie Delay the light blinks in time.
I’m guessing that this would be the case with the global BPM. Is this a correct assumption?..

Good question! Would the global BPM overrule other plugins using the LED’s? Will it even be possible to have other – “local” – beats for plugins once the global beat is activated?

Does the global bpm plugin exist yet?

We have global BPM since a few years now. There is no need for a plugin in this case, you click on the addressing icon near the BPM and you can address it to anything

I hope I don’t understand something and there is a solution.
Could it be that only a few plugins know “bpm sync”?
If so, it is very bad and shocking to me that the effects are out of sync with bpm. Delays, modulation effects without bpm-sync are useless for live act.
Incredible…
Is there a solution, right? I don’t want to believe this.

It is the case that only some of the plugins are able to sync with global BPM. As well, for some that have the capability, you may need to change their settings since some plugins can sync from different sources (global, tap tempo, discrete value). There’s a lot of historical context behind all of this. In the earlier days of MOD and the Duo, the device was developed more in the realm of guitar players. The pedalboard motif and the curated plugins reflected this. In the traditional guitar player world, you set or tap a tempo on your delay and then hope the band keeps good time! From the perspective of plugin developers, the concept of “global BPM” probably wasn’t on their radar when many of these were originally written several years ago.

Is there a solution

Some of the plugins have been converted to honor the global BPM, make sure to check their settings. If you have one (or more) that you like using that don’t work with global BPM, ask politely on the forum about their status. The MOD team may be able to add the feature quickly or help to reach out to the original developer.

Thank You!
I’m a bass player, I play electronic music with a lot of jamming, bpm sync is very important to me.

I read here that Shiro Modulay knows the tap tempo.
In the case of Shiro delay, how can I control the delay time with tap tempo?
Can tap tempo be controlled by an external midi controller?
I use a Morningstar MC6 MKII and Disaster Area DMC-3XL.

Tap-tempo can only be set on the global BPM, not in particular controls anymore.
What can be done is to assign a tempo division to a particular tempo-related control. Perhaps this is not working?

Thnaks!
I assigned the tap tempo to a footswitch, but for Shiro delay, if I want to set the delay time to 1/4, the save button “does not live”.

The midi out work like midi thru?
Forward all incoming signals?

Not sure if I follow…

Did you set it up like this?

Screenshot_20191218_175346

MIDI out will output on the DIN MIDI and whatever usb midi devices you connect it to.
If you connect the bottom-left MIDI in to bottom-right MIDI out jacks in the pedalboard, it will work as midi-through yeah.

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there is no small square there. :frowning:

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I don’t have that pulldown and tempo checkbox.

Everything updated, no pulldown.

Make sure the device software and plugin are updated.
This feature was introduced in v1.8, and plugins were changed to adapt to it. So updating is required.

Yes, mod duo and plugin are updated.