Wifi connectivity

Tried two different dongles and neither seems to be recognized. Here is my dmesg output:

[180875.458381] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 4
[180879.009141] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-platform
[180879.138186] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0bda, idProduct=8179, bcdDevice= 0.00
[180879.138213] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[180879.138221] usb 1-1: Product: 802.11n NIC
[180879.138226] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Realtek
[180879.138232] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 00E04C0001
[180991.183679] systemd[1]: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device/start timed out.
[180991.183754] systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device.
[180991.183998] systemd[1]: Dependency failed for WPA supplicant for wlan0.
[180991.184115] systemd[1]: Job wpa-supplicant-wlan0.service/start failed with result ā€˜dependencyā€™.
[180991.184165] systemd[1]: Dependency failed for DHCP for wlan0.
[180991.184259] systemd[1]: Job dhcpcd-wlan0.service/start failed with result ā€˜dependencyā€™.
[180991.184508] systemd[1]: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device/start failed with result ā€˜timeoutā€™.
[179721.638285] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
[179725.321147] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-platform
[179725.450440] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=2001, idProduct=3314, bcdDevice= 2.00
[179725.450468] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[179725.450476] usb 1-1: Product: 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[179725.450482] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Realtek
[179725.450488] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 00e04c000001
[179807.433683] systemd[1]: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device/start timed out.
[179807.433755] systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device.
[179807.434000] systemd[1]: Dependency failed for WPA supplicant for wlan0.
[179807.434115] systemd[1]: Job wpa-supplicant-wlan0.service/start failed with result ā€˜dependencyā€™.
[179807.434162] systemd[1]: Dependency failed for DHCP for wlan0.
[179807.434252] systemd[1]: Job dhcpcd-wlan0.service/start failed with result ā€˜dependencyā€™.
[179807.434494] systemd[1]: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device/start failed with result ā€˜timeoutā€™.

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BTW, the iw command doesnā€™t list the device. Is the Realtek driver module missing? I donā€™t see it in the kernel modules.

I assume you are following WiFi - MOD Wiki ?
Seems like it is recognized as WiFi dongle/stick, as we see ā€œ802.11n NICā€.

Iā€™m stuck with BT, I left if for impossibleā€¦ Anyway guys, I think you should recommend a cheap (or not) USB dongle or core at least, as the Organelle has and say ā€œguys with no linux knowledge, stick a wifi USB from this brand/model and youā€™re doneā€ (more or less like the BT is working right now).

I guess you have achieved much more complex things with these awesome devicesā€¦ And it gives great value for he studio work.

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The Wifi connectivity is still more in the experimental mode (while Bluetooth is more developed), thatā€™s why we still didnā€™t really recommend any Wifi dongles. Anyway, itā€™s a nice request. Maybe something to ask the community to help us out feeding, no?

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Hi all

New to the Forum, just bought the TP-Link UB400 Nano USB Bluetooth 4.0 Adapter and all working great, can use the config page on my ipad (Although itā€™s a bit big for the small ipad screen so canā€™t read plugin names) and ableton link working

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Welcome to the forum :slight_smile:
Glad that you are happy. Indeed the WebGui is not optimised for mobile devices. Hopefully something that we will have time to improve in the future. But I canā€™t promise you when.

Must say it works way better on my iPad than laptop

Connects every time easily with Bluetooth (canā€™t connect via Bluetooth on laptop) and using two fingers to move about / zoom is much faster the only prob is plug-in names donā€™t quite fit on the smaller iPad screen.

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Thatā€™s quite interesting feedback since the WebGui is not yet optimized for mobile devices

Iā€™ll try itā€¦ Did you have to install any driver? If so, which one? Thanks! :slight_smile:

Has anyone tried getting it working with a wired ethernet connection?

Re: why not use it via USB, because if Iā€™d like to be able to access the Mod from multiple hosts, itā€™s much easier to have it on a network for real. Also, there are other devices (a Bome Box, an SQ6, and possibly a couple of other Mods) that I also need to access at the same that support ethernet ā€” and Iā€™d prefer not to use wireless just for reliability, if nothing else. And, obviously, I mean via a USB network card.

Iā€™m assuming at this point that USB ethernet driver support on linux is pretty well standardized (itā€™s been ages since Iā€™ve had a linux desktop), so it should be reasonably straight-forward, and likely less annoying to deal with than the wifi side in general.

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Yes, sorry, I deleted my comment after thinking about it!

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This is not a promotion and I receive no compensation of any kind from this company. Yamaha and Roland both have MIDI Bluetooth dongles that have been around for a long time, but in my opinion, suffer from being a low priority for development and integration with other MIDI technologies.

Currently, I am using the CME Pro technology, the WIDI Master with an earlier generation CME Pro MIDI/Bluetooth Dongle, and pre-ordered their next-gen WIDI Bud Pro dongle, and a new 3 in 1 device called WIDI UHost. I am mostly using these in part for the development of a PCB that is integral to my guitar and bass designs using their WIDI Core/CoreX chipset.

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@Muiren What about latency, is it noticeable?

I have quite some experience with Bluetooth MIDI (even on the development side) and actually also have a WIDI Jack.
I can tell you that nowadays the latency issues with Bluetooth MIDI is more of a myth than actually something disturbing. Some interfaces or usb controllers even have more latency than many cases of Bluetooth MIDI.

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Hi,

I have a similar experience with a Logilink WL0237:

[ 3748.416337] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
[ 3752.133593] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-platform
[ 3752.264803] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0bda, idProduct=c811, bcdDevice= 2.00
[ 3752.264830] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 3752.264838] usb 1-1: Product: 802.11ac NIC
[ 3752.264844] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Realtek
[ 3752.264851] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 123456

Searched a lot, did not find a firmware image for this device that I could put in place as the wifi wiki page suggestsā€¦

Is there in the meantime any recommendation for a Wifi Dongle that i could buy (like, itā€™s actually available in a real shop, in Germany, today - which is often not the case for recommendations in compatibility lists) and try that is promising?

Thomann sells the Critter and Guitari WIfi Dongle - Critter & Guitari USB WiFi Adapter ā€“ Musikhaus Thomann - would that be a viable solution?

If not Wifi, how about ethernet? Iā€™d like to be a bit more flexible with accessing the web UI of the Dwarf by not having to plug a USB Cable into the right computer for the length of the cable and on because USB Ports are scarce on some of my computers. I might even want to use a tablet.

Why donā€™t use the Bluetooth connection? Wifi is still in experimental stage as you can see in the wiki

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Hey Jon,
Yes I see this, but I still want to try.
I experience strange effects on networking in Linux with the USB connection.
For a while I could access the Dwarf as well the Internet, like the forum and wiki here, but suddenly, connection to the outer network broken, so no Wiki, and also no Browsing in the plugin store anymore, on my laptop and the dwarf - forum question/bug report/support request will follow.
I assume this comes from adding special internal IP networks to a machine over unusual protocols.

Bluetooth, wellā€¦ I havenā€™t actually looked into bluetooth. With many bluetooth devices I already use, I often have pairing issues, so I assume it generally as tricky.

I want easy jumping from one computer to another without having to deal with changing the current connection and Iā€™d prefer it would not, just as the USB connection, play with my IP and routing etc configuration. Is the bluetooth way working with multiple devices, so I can easily switch e.g. from my tablet to my laptop to my desktop for accessing the dwarfs UI without having to do anything on the connection? Or will I have to do explicit switching each time?

All these things just not happen when I can use the ā€œnormalā€ LAN.

As I said, a recommendation for a working and currently available ethernet dongle would also help.

Also, I might look into the idea of connecting the USB to a router / raspberry pi, and proxy the web UI from there to my LAN.

Maybe this way of working is not what the device is conceived for. It seems to me the idea is more to prepare things on the web UI and then use it for the ā€œrealā€ playing in standalone mode. But my use case is more that of a an open source Groove Box(synths drums etc) than of an effect device. So I want to play with all possible sound properties while making music. And I think besides some limitations(UI is a bit tricky for realtime manipulation and is not ideal for Touchscreens, yet, Dwarfs CPU a bit too small, so I will upgrade to DuoX soon) itā€™s ideal for that :wink:

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Still working for me. No problem since I created this post. Never had any issues with this tiny router.

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